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Fred Basset's avatar

I have faith in our republic, it's institutions, and the people who comprise it. The loss of the white house and congress was a slap in the face to policies that the democrat party had adopted over a long period of time. I liken it to the verdict in the O.J. Simpson murder trial. Berni Sanders said, paraphrasing here, that it was no suprise that the working class abandoned the democratic party when the democratic party had abandoned them. Even now senate Republicans are pushing back against some cabinet nominees. Not every republican is a Trump fan. There are procedural tools available to the minority party in both houses. There are the courts. The Supreme Court is showing signs that they are not a total rubber stamp for all policies. The democrats had 4 years uunder Biden to listen to the public and put together policies and a platform that responded to the publics wants and needs. They collectively squandered that time talking at the voters instead of listening to them. Staking out ground on fringe social issues that impacted few people and ignoring basic bread and butter issues. Elections are about numbers and the democrats didn't count very well. The ball is in their court. Soul searching and listening are in order. Faith in the republic and it's institutions, using the tools built in by the framers, and listening will carry the day.

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JBR's avatar

A clear detailed specific platform is needed tho belated.

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George Neidorf's avatar

The Democrats have 3 yrs. to put together a platform that appeals to a majority of people. Hopefully they can overcome their arrogance and realize that what they had for sale, few wanted to buy.

You can't just foist someone onto the public and think that their gender and skin color will get them through.

The Republicans presented the nation with choices and they chose Trump. The Democrats pushed an unelected candidate, excluded everyone else and paid the price.

They assumed, always a mistake, that Americans of color would automatically vote for them. Among other things that they didn't take into account was that Latinos are mostly Catholic and Catholics are mostly conservative, Black people are not a monolith and being wishy washy about Israel and not condemning the anti-Semitism in the US lost them the Jewish & Christian vote. Atheism is not a popular platform. Socialism will not work in a large and diverse society. People want a leader who at least appears strong and will take their side.

Harris condemned herself. She couldn't or wouldn't answer questions and when she did it sounded like gobbledeegook. She didn't explain any policies and thought that having "celebrities" endorse her would be enough to sway people. She tried to beat Trump at his own game of insults and she doesn't have the cajones to do that.

People had a choice of 2 candidates who are supremely flawed and chose the stronger one.

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Bill Alstrom (MA/Maine/MA)'s avatar

Absolute nonsense. Harris ran the finest, most organic and organized campaign I have ever seen.

Trump voters showed up with the same numbers as last time. Too many Democrats and sane independents stayed home. Why?

Difficulty voting?

Biracial woman candidate?

Gaza?

Economics twisted by the media?

Almost all the platforms and positions of the Democratic Party are overwhelmingly supported by Americans. From choice to gun control. From economic assistance for child care and elder care. Maintaining social safety nets and human rights.

Nope. We lost because we were not defined as change. Too many families are struggling with the overall cost of housing, student debt, Healthcare, child care, elder care and the total price of utilities.

Next time, Democrats need to be the Change Advocates. We need to demand RADICAL change in tax reform so the rich start paying the right amount and average Americans are helped. We need to be extremely loud about it.

The right wing of a party just went so far right that Mussolini would applaud. We need to learn that we need to be loud about demanding a FINANCIAL REVOLUTION. The current form of unregulated, monopolistic capitalism is failing most Americans.

We need to Eat the Rich - feed the poor and restore true democracy by removing big money from our elections.

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George Neidorf's avatar

You can demand anything you want and the politicians will still do what the corporations pay them to do. The politicians are part of the rich and will not do anything to jeopardize their money. Politicians aren't the answer, they're the problem. At least this has been true for my 85 yrs. on this planet.

What is your plan to "feed the poor?"

There hasn't been a "true democracy" since ancient Greece and they'll never be another one. A Constitutional Republic is the best you're ever going to get.

If Harris ran the type of campaign that you claim, I wonder how many campaigns you've seen?

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Dave Conant - MO's avatar

You make some interesting points George, but the timeline is off. We have about 12 months to prepare for the midterm elections and, from the way the sniping is already starting among Republicans, the opportunity will be huge.

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George Neidorf's avatar

I wasn't thinking about the mid-terms. If the Republicans can't govern they'll lose the house and that's the end of their legislation. Of course there are always the ubiquitous executive orders that I'd like to see done away with except in wartime or national emergencies. Dreeeam.

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Dave Conant - MO's avatar

The Republicans also have a relatively bad Senate map in '26. We're stuck with mine for 4 more years but other states have opportunities.

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George Neidorf's avatar

I wonder what will happen if were all wrong and the country becomes prosperous under Trump?

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Dave Conant - MO's avatar

We'll swallow hard and learn to live with it.

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Bill Alstrom (MA/Maine/MA)'s avatar

Cory Booker was an excellent option for president. He is well spoken and compassionate. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.

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David Holzman's avatar

work hard towards improving it.

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Steven L Whysel's avatar

As you so wisely stated, this is not the time to “jump the gun” about what has just happened but is the time to contemplate the next path to follow. Finding wise younger leaders who will put the needs of “the guy, gal & they in the street “ before building new roads, buildings and giving tax breaks to those who are already in good financial shape, that’s the kind of leaders who can recapture the hearts and minds of those who have been forgotten by most Democrats during the past 30 years.

Let our priorities be about fairness. Fairness in wealth distribution, housing and job training when companies send their work overseas.

I’m not promoting a Socialist form of government but I am promoting a fairer tax code and health care we can all afford without needing to work three jobs. Capitalism has been good for our country but not when the wealthiest use their largesse to over-influence politicians to foster their own agendas.

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Dave Conant - MO's avatar

I liked Senator Booker as a candidate in 2020 and would cheerfully support him in 2028. His only drawback 4 years ago was a tendency to slip in non sequiturs when speaking. His ideas are good, his record is strong, and he seems to have a good feel for people. He also doesn't carry the baggage that VP Harris had although there will be those who will argue (well-meaning or otherwise) that this past election proves that America isn't ready yet for another person of color in the White House. That reservation can be overcome by what the Polish unionists referred to as Solidarnosc when they were booting the Russian Communist dictatorship out of their country. It was hard, and people died, and we must be prepared for that possibility here as well, but, together, we can and must get it done.

I'm reading Ron Chernow's biography of Alexander Hamilton and highly recommend the chapter entitled Reign of Witches for anyone who has become convinced that we've never seen this sort of thing in the U.S. before. The Republicans, like the Federalists in the Adams administration, have already begun sniping at each other and, with their only acknowledged leader being a morbidly obese 78 year old narcissist bent on revenge, it's only a matter of time before they fall victim to the same fate that has befallen every dictator throughout history when they came to the end of their tenure here. The Judgement they will face will make Judges Chutkan and Merchan look kind and their only hope will be the Mercy that God has promised to those who repent of the sins they committed while on His earth.

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